In the September 4th episode, Perry talked about her upcoming album, "143", and her controversial decision to work again with producer Dr. Luke. Dr. Luke, known for producing many of Perry’s biggest hits, has faced allegations of drugging and sexually assaulting singer Kesha, which he denies. xDespite the backlash, Perry defended her choice, stating, "He was one of many collaborators… but the reality is, it comes from me. I wrote these songs from my experience."

Perry's decision has reignited debate, similar to the criticism faced by artists like Doja Cat and Kim Petras, who also worked with Dr. Luke on their recent albums. Perry’s new singles, "Woman's World" and "Lifetimes," both co-produced by Dr. Luke, have sparked controversy online. Perry explained that "Woman's World"x is a song about empowerment, reflecting her life as a mother and a woman.

Although she did not directly address the allegations against Dr. Luke on the podcast, Perry acknowledged the conversations around her decision and emphasized that her creative choices stem from her own experiences and growth.

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